Recently received a Declined notice from a Lit Mag submission with some thoughts from the Associated Editor - "the Editor pretty much goes along with all my recommendations" - on what not to send him.
Don't send him anything about your mother or father. Nothing about characters that have Cancer or Alzheimers or any terminal illnesses. Hates stories about animals and children. My Childhood type stories will be automatically rejected. Angst-filled marriage or relationship works, ditto. No tales about morphing into clouds, trees or flowers.
He doesn't want to hear about where your ancestors came from. No children in rehab tales. No science fiction, no vampire works, and on, and on, and on.
After reading his diatribe I thought to myself - no wonder so few of us ever get published. This person doesn't want to read stories about life.
Your thoughts?
Well. Please, tell me which mag this is because, ahem, these are the topics I write about.
These could be construed to be topics women primarily write about (though quite a few dudes do as well -- think franzen, ahem).
Okay. I'm an associate editor, too. I don't see many stories of the above, with the exception of the childhood angst. I see lots of young guys in bars stories. A lot of drugging stories a la James Frey. Very few women in the slush pile though, I am pleased, great representation in the final mag.
I have a lot of other thoughts, too, but am too tired to thoroughly explicate (just back from Seattle and jet-lagging like crazy), but I do think there is a certain 'voice' that some pubs reach for, and I think the voice is a young, often male, MFA voice. Which is fine if you're all of the above. But hey, the great news is that there are so many wonderful venues that DO embrace different stories and ways of telling them that publication options are unlimited.
I am still looking for top-tier journals which publish stories that interest me, a middle-aged woman with kids, a complicated job and a more complicated life. So far, The Bellevue Literary Review and The Sun are the print journals of choice. And on that note, off to read the latest. Peace...
Linda, sleep well, dream big. Then I want to know your opinion of The Women Arts Quarterly and Bacopa - Writers Alliance of Gainsville.
Mar
I'll keep this short and sweet, because I could go on forever about this topic.
Basically, MaryAnne, ignore it. I remember seeing that slip (or one very similar) ten-some years ago. It could've been printed that far back and simply is being used till they run out.
Nobody knows what the hell they "want" until they read it and love it. That goes for agents and editors of all stripes. Myself included..
Just write and send what you want to write. It will find its "writeful" place.
My question when reading that no-list was: what stories are left? Running with bulls, no that contains animals. Fantasy? That sometimes involves trees, or children. ;)
Fortunately, there seems to be lots of places that accept stories about life, family, children, animals, people etc.
Berit, After I started this thread I could not resist the title or story opportunity. Hence the story Dont Sent Me Anything! about a fried egg sandwich - seemed to avoid all the above categories. . .
Morphing into flowers?!?!! People write about things like that?
You really have to love the wisdom of the sophomoric, wickedly sophisticated members of the bored and brilliant literati who screen submissions. Twenty years old and they've seen ... it ... all.
Wait ... I used to be like that.
But, still ... morphing into flowers? That would make a great short story, sort of like ... the anti-Kafka, where instead of waking up as a cockroach, guy wakes up as a strawberry-colored rhododenron in a clay pot.
Who couldn't like something like that?
MaryAnne:
I got a cancer rejection as well (for a story that started out in a bar) from the Barcelona Review, so I changed it to suicide, since it was a minor point anyway. 10 or 15 words turned it into a 'cancer story' for them. Cave under pressure? I suppose, but I still believe that exceptional writing can vanquish editors stigmas every time. On the other hand, they have to read everything so fast that many have their own 'rejection list' of reasons not to finish reading a particular story.
I'm always happy to receive that kind of rejection, though. Far more useful than silence. But also I never think of editors as readers, as my target audience, which helps me a great deal. I appreciate when they like my work, ignore it when they don't, and take their criticism to heart whenever given. The good ones have read more stories than I ever will, and are able to see things that I can't, or won't.
Brett, you are very wise. And certainly one of the best writers I have ever tead. . .
"The good ones have read more stories than I ever will, and are able to see things that I can't, or won't."
Well put Brett. Similar with what happens with my poetry. I was recently rejected by Anderbo, but picked up by Atticus Review. I got a bonus with Atticus, too, because they have their own press, which hopefully will be useful to me in the future.
Some really great editors/writers at Atticus, so I recommend checking them out. I think Atticus Books has a group link here at FN.
-Matthew
Well I really REALLY want to try and get something published by the slip-people now... what a challenge! Did you send them the fried-egg-sandwich piece? I loved it.
Linda - excuse my ignorance but what's MFA mean? Not a term I've come across before but I'm still new to all this and very keen to learn.
JLD - please write about the strawberry coloured rhododendron. I can see it now!
Gill, you should have no problem whatsoever getting published with your estimable talents.
Aw shucks, MAK *blushing*
Don't get mad -- get even! I have a couple of slip-peep mags I keep trying and trying to get into... sigh...
Gill: no ignorance just my love of acronyms. MFA -- Master of Fine Arts. And concur with MAK, just keep subbing. Peace...
Ah, thanks Linda! Good luck all.
MaryAnne, I should post that poem I published in 5 AM. You'd get a kick out of it. Maybe this weekend.